Glad you are back Cedars. We all really need your insight.
LITS
i also apologise for saying you are nuts and anything else i said that upset you.. i realise now that many problems result from differing perceptions - for example some of us tend more towards being realists whilst others tend more towards being idealists (of course this is a little simplistic) but it was my bingo moment this morning.
i guess i am enough of an idealist to appreciate your writing and overall i think it is excellent.
what i mean to say about idealism is that we would all like to see the wt go down and to believe that they are very short of money, on the brink of survival and this is such an encouraging image that may indeed be close to the truth.
Glad you are back Cedars. We all really need your insight.
LITS
a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.
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This is sort off the topic but I wanted to thank you Ceaders for all of your hard work on this subject and other posts that you have done also also. I am so horribly sorry about posters like KS and JT. It just made me sick to read what they said to you.
I read their responses to you before I had to leave for work this morning and it really upset me the whole time I was working. You do so much for this board and to see such hate and meanness that is so uncalled for toward you is just amazing. It just totally brings me down. I just do not understand them. Why are they so hateful? What is their payback?
I loved your take on this subject you bring things out points that I have not thought of and that I cannot express so well and you make total sense to me as you also clearly do to many, many other posters on this board.Please do not quit doing you great work.
LITS
i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.
the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.
i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.
Thanks ceaders loved your post. I love the way you reason you help me understand things that I know in my gut but do not know how to put into words. You have given me a lot to think about today at work.
Thank you for still posting here. I would hate to see you truly leave as your posts are the best.
LITS
Thank you that was a great song and a nice way to start today.
LITS
our friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
never a jw if you will go back and read OOMPA's posts you will know that it was totally JW related.
LITS
our friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
I am just so sorry
LITS
undercover, i was interested in your last post and how you felt that believing in god is a delusion.
i'm not interested in any debates over it but i saw you have been here for 10 years!
that's some stay!
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((((((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))) Grace, I am so glad you are still here, do not know what we would do without you, you mean the world to me. I will never forget that you were the first one to reach out to me. I wil never forget your kindness to me, how just knowing someone cared meant the world to me. Thank you so much.
LITS
just wondering?
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When we had the first pedophile move into my hall that I knew of I soon learned of two more that were in the hall and my husband was an elder at the time had been for close to 30 years.
The elders put two of the pedophiles in our book study this was in 2007 two years before the book study's went away.
One of the child molesters was hell bent on working with us in field service, all the elders the whole body knew I had been a victim of sexual abuse as a child and how pedophiles made me feel really depressed, they could care less. I went to the CO about it and he told me I needed to get my feelings under control and just buck it up, that being my husband was an elder AND he HAD TO WORK WITH THE CHILD RAPISTS PERIOD!!!!!
I spiraled into a huge major depression. I dropped over 20 pounds in just two months and was very, very, very suicidal. The other elders knew it and then did NOTHING TO HELP ME. Just only telling me I was wrong in how I felt about the child molesters.
LITS
part 3 (which is where the actual meeting begins) is finished.
it took my computer hours and hours to render and upload it!!
anyway, this is what i just posted on my youtube channel:.
Marked for latter